Documentary “Muslims in Europe”: “Democracy is trash. Sharia!”

This is a quite interesting and well made documentary from the front line of the Clash of Civilizations. In these days reality is more exciting and dramatic than most Hollywood productions:

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  1. I speak german and you know its very interesting to listen to Hitler in his own words, I think one can say with confidence regardless of whether you like his opinions that man was a great speaker, and he was telling the world his terrible plans, so he certainly was not a liar, the muslims are telling Europa loud and clear what they are planning, and Europeans play it off as follows #1 The majority of muslims are not terrorists,2 Islam is peace, 3 dont worry the muslims will integrate(its already 3rd generation if not now then when?!!!!!), 4 we must have understanding for their culture and religion and we should not judge(where is the freedom of opionion in that?!!!), 5 it is racist to critisize Islam.
    Our Countries are democracies, the whole concept of democracy envisions the will of the people being implemented, if muslim demographics permitt they will enter the parliament, executive etc., and they will take their views in there with them, there is at minimum a potential for disaster for our Freedom and our way of life, such eventualities cannot be allowed to come about, no I am not a Hitler calling for executing people because of their religion or anything of that sort, and yes we should seek to have good relations with those muslims who do not agree with Islamists,Jihadists & Co, but if we want peace in Europa we must first push for change in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia the root of all evil must be made to deradicalize, and to stop financing intolerant, violent Muslims, every hate preachng Imam etc. must know that our Governments are listening and there will be consequences ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

    • Agreed: “Democracy is evil.”

      Nevertheless, haven’t you ever wondered if the god is powerful enough to make democracy good? After all, is not the god unlimitedly powerful? If unlimitedly powerful, then the god can fix democracy. If the god can’t fix democracy, however, then the god is a limited god.

      And if the alleged god is a limited being, we should doubt that it deserves to be called ‘the god’ at all. We should doubt also that the alleged god is in control of existence and—for reasons just implied—that “Sharia is the only real law”. Instead, “the only real law” is the law which prevents the supposed god from fixing the defects of democracy.

    • Surely this is intended to be sarcasm. (If the writer genuinely believed democracy to be evil, he’d not have sought to live in a democratic country — I assume that he’s not dishonest.) But as sarcasm, it fails: we see too much of the ill of anti-democratic forces around us.

  2. Shaniqua Mohamed, your oneliner requires some explanation from your side. Do you intend to say that the sharia is in a postion to surpass the Constitution of a country? And if so, in your opinion, what are your plans with the people that don’t worship Islam? Do you respect the mere fact that other people are atheists, agnosts, Christians, Jews, Buddhists, ….?

    • Sharia is the one only law. When we reach 50 percent we will vote in Sharia. All we need to do is wait until we have 50 percent.

  3. Shaniqua Mohammad. Islam is being used to start WW3 , to usher in the NWO. All religions will be banned, along with politics. The survivors will be so grateful for food and water and electricity, that they will welcome the alternative by the NWO. You are the cause of so much suffering Mohammad , blind fool.

  4. Turning back the evolutionary clock 500 years to the dark Ages where women are fully covered with slits for their eyes.

    • Subject: Women Liberation

      It’s funny how the west has tons of cases of domestic abuse but they think they can lecture Muslims on women. Have you read the Bible with regards to its verses on women? All of you women here who aren’t covering their heads should have their heads shaved as a punishment according to the bible.
      And the verse of Surah Nisa is about women who are disloyal to their husband, and then there are stages of dealing with it.

      4:34. Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband’s) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them; but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).

      In Islam it is forbidden to hit anyone on their face so the ruling on beating is only for the body below the shoulders. Also, it’s forbidden to beat in such a way that would leave mark on a body. Which means you can only beat them lightly.

      “If a wife fears cruelty or desertion on her husband’s part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men’s souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, God is well-acquainted with all that ye do. (The Noble Quran, 4:128)”

      So if a man is being cruel to his wife by transgressing the limits and beating her black and blue she can claim divorce as well. God has ordered all men to be respectful to their wives and children , our Prophet (PBUH) has never beaten or hurt his wives neither ordered Muslims to beat their wives and you can look it up . As a Muslim i do not feel that Islam has deprived me of my rights , i feel respected and protected , and i definitely do not have to go topless in order to be heard !

      Mutual relations between husband and wife

      This shows the importance of husband-wife relations in human life and how the law-maker the Holy Prophet himself felt this importance. If the husband and wife do not discharge each other’s rights properly and, instead, usurp these mutual rights, not only will this result in the violation of each other’s rights, but it will also adversely affect both the families as well as the children whose proper upkeep, development, mental and moral growth will be affected. As the family is the foundation of the entire civilisation, with its ruination civilisation is itself ruined. That is why the Prophet [sallallaahu alyhi wasallam] has laid great stress on the importance of mutual relation between husband and wife.
      Women are in your confinement

      Hazrat Umr bin al-Ahwas al-Jashim [radhiallaahu anhu] has narrated that in the Farewell sermon the Holy Prophet [sallallaahu alyhi wasallam] praised Almighty Allah, offered counsels and delivered a speech and then said:

      “Beware! I advise you to do good to women. Accept this advice.”

      This is the sentence which occurred in the previous Tradition. His next sentence was:

      “because those women live with you confined in your houses.”

      The Holy Prophet [sallallaahu alyhi wasallam] has mentioned an attribute of women that if man reflects over this attribute only, he can never think of misbehaving with them.

      It’s funny how you people are so supportive of someone who is being disloyal to their spouse. Many women beat their husbands in the west. Why don’t you raise any issue against that? Especially when the type of beating prescribed in Islam is a very gentle one that is below the shoulders and one that shouldn’t leave any mark on the body.

      And feminists here should do more about women who beat men with impunity in western societies before talking about equality and freedom.

      Islam has given more rights to women then any other religion go and study bible or to rah. …Secondly do not mix culture with religion …. IF women r not allowed to drive in Saudi Arab women r flying planes in Pakistan and UAE in air forces. ……do not take AYAHS of Quran from context read the tafseer not only translations.

      The Qur’an enjoins good treatment of one’s wife: she is to be honoured and treated kindly, even when one no longer feels love in one’s heart towards her. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

      “and live with them honourably. If you dislike them, it may be that you dislike a thing and Allaah brings through it a great deal of good”

      [al-Nisa’ 4:19]

      2 – The Qur’an explains that women have rights over their husbands, just as their husbands have rights over them. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

      “And they (women) have rights (over their husbands as regards living expenses) similar (to those of their husbands) over them (as regards obedience and respect) to what is reasonable, but men have a degree (of responsibility) over them. And Allaah is All-Mighty, All-Wise”

      [al-Baqarah 2:228]

      This verse indicates that the man has additional rights, commensurate with his role as protector and maintainer and his responsibility of spending (on his wife) etc.

      3 – The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) enjoined kind treatment and honouring of one’s wife, and he described the best of people as those who are best to their wives. He said: “The best of you are those who are the best to their wives, and I am the best of you to my wives.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 3895; Ibn Majah, 1977; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.

      4 – The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) spoke beautiful word concerning kind treatment of one’s wife, stating that when the husband feeds his wife and puts a morsel of food in her mouth, he earns the reward of doing an act of charity. He said, “You never spend anything but you will be rewarded for it, even the morsel of food that you lift to your wife’s mouth.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 6352; Muslim, 1628.

      4 – And he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Fear Allaah with regard to women, for you have taken them as a trust from Allaah and intimacy with them has become permissible to you by the words of Allaah. Your right over them is that they should not allow anyone to sit on your furniture whom you dislike; if they do that then hit them but not in a harsh manner. And their right over you is that you should provide for them and clothe them on a reasonable basis.” Narrated by Muslim, 1218.

      What is meant by “they should not allow anyone to sit on your furniture whom you dislike” is that they should not allow anyone whom you dislike to enter your houses, whether the person disliked is a man or a woman, or any of the woman’s mahram [close relatives to whom marriage is forbidden]. The prohibition includes all of them. From the words of al-Nawawi.

      The hadith may be understood as meaning that a man has the right to hit his wife, in a manner that is not harsh and does not cause injury if if there is a reason for that, such as her going against his wishes or disobeying him.

      This is like the verse in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

      “As to those women on whose part you see ill‑conduct, admonish them (first), (next) refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance). Surely, Allaah is Ever Most High, Most Great”

      [al-Nisa’ 4:34]

      If a woman rebels against her husband and disobeys his commands, then he should follow this method of admonishing her, forsaking her in bed and hitting her. Hitting is subject to the condition that it should not be harsh or cause injury. Al-Hasan al-Basri said: this means that it should not cause pain.

      ‘Ata’ said: I said to Ibn ‘Abbas, what is the kind of hitting that is not harsh? He said, Hitting with a siwaak and the like. [A siwaak is a small stick or twig used for cleaning the teeth – Translator]

      The purpose behind this is not to hurt or humiliate the woman, rather it is intended to make her realize that she has transgressed against her husband’s rights, and that her husband has the right to set her straight and discipline her.

      And Allaah knows best.

  5. Well you haven’t read Sharia law, you’ll see how it talks about equality for woman, which was something revolutionary in 600 AD. brutality to women? there are more laws protecting women. I just think Sharia is misunderstood and the word is used in a derogatory manner way too often.

    Sharia is a moral and religious code which affects everything from a believer’s personal hygiene to diet and finance. In terms of the latter, it prohibits acceptance of specific interest (known as riba) or fees for loans of money, whether the payment is fixed or floating. To comply with Sharia, any loan must be Qard (free of profit)’. This therefore excludes student loans, which accrue interest (albeit, at a very low rate, equivalent to the rate of inflation).

    There is not a strictly codified uniform set of laws that can be called Sharia. It is considered a system of several laws, based on the Qur’an, Hadith and centuries of debate, interpretation and precedent. Attempts to implement Sharia law have been met with opposition globally. There is no consensus between Islamic schools of thought on how far-reaching Sharia law should be.

    Turkish PM Erdogan has commented on the term ‘moderate Islam’ often used in the West to describe Muslims who aren’t terrorists. Erdogan said, “These descriptions are very ugly, it is offensive and an insult to our religion. There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that’s it.”

    In Islam, I would like to tell that we don’t have any conflicts between science and our religion. On the contrary, many of new science theories proves that our holy book ‘Quran’ must be from Allah, this is because it tells us with science facts that has been discovered only recently. Although Quran is from 14 centuries, it has many signs that earth is spherical, in addition is has signs about the Big Bang theory of the universe creation, in addition it has many science facts about the stages of women pregnancy and how the child is created, and a lot of other things that tell us that the Quran must be from the God.Sharia law is found in all countries in the world even in the country that hate Muslims more i.e. Israel- You seem to confuse penal law in sharia which only applies to Muslims and no one else with day to day on how Muslims should live. Sharia law is only for Muslims I can not see where the problem is.:

    Sharia law is divided into three main sections:

    Faith (Aqida).Ethics (Akhlaq).the acts of Muslim which divided into two sections;- The acts of worship, or al-ibadat, these include: Ritual Purification (Wudu)Prayers (Salah)Fasts (Swam and Ramadan)Charities (Zakat)Pilgrimage to Mecca (Hajj) Human interaction, or al-mu’amalat, which includes: Financial transactions Endowments Laws of inheritance Marriage, divorce, and child care Foods and drinks (including ritual slaughtering and hunting)Penal punishments Warfare and peace Judicial matters (including witnesses and forms of evidence)

    Sharia, or Islamic law, offers moral and legal guidance for nearly all aspects of life – from marriage and divorce, to inheritance and contracts, to criminal punishments. Sharia, in its broadest definition, refers to the ethical principles set down in Islam’s holy book (the Quran) and examples of actions by the Prophet Muhammad (sunna). The Islamic jurisprudence that comes out of the human exercise of codifying and interpreting these principles is known as fiqh. Muslim scholars and jurists continue to debate the boundary between sharia and fiqh as well as other aspects of Islamic law.

    Please do me a favour and show us where in the sharia law it says you can commit rape? because I know 100% you will not be able to find it. the media are brainwashing a lot of people, open your eyes to the real truth. Islam is about peace, something the media doesn’t portray. why don’t you take the time and effort to talk to a well known and respected Muslim scholar before you start writing utter nonsense? Back your theories up with facts!!! you wouldn’t though, would you, because you’ll never find your theories in the sharia law.

    Women were not allowed to inherit property before Islam. Many girls were killed shortly after being born (just like in India today). These are a couple of the improvements Islam bought to women. There are many more. Please don’t generalise from your ignorance. Sharia’s incorporates Islamic practice (prayers, fasting, pilgrimage, charity, shahadah), civil law, and criminal law. To what do you object? Prayer? Civil law (people are entitled to resolve their civil law differences by whatever means they like, in the UK)?

    Thousands of Muslims are turning to them to help resolve family, financial and commercial problems in accordance with Sharia principles. It is a Growing demand. An estimated 85 Sharia councils could be operating in Britain, according to a 2009 report by the think tank Civitas. Several bodies like the Islamic Sharia Council have seen a large increase in their cases in the past five years. “Our cases have easily more than tripled over the past three to five years,” says Sheikh al-Haddad. “On average, every month we can deal with anything from 200 to 300 cases. A few years ago it was just a small fraction of
    that. “Muslims are becoming more aligned with their faith and more aware of what we are offering them,” he explained. But while a demand for Sharia continues in Britain, Sheikh Haitham al-Haddad says the practice cannot be banned. “We are not forcing people to walk through our doors. They are voluntarily coming to us,” he said. “If you ban us, then British Muslims will find somewhere else to go. “Many will go to Muslim countries abroad, where there will be no way to protect them.

    The principles of Sharia govern all aspects of a Muslim’s life. It is derived from a combination of sources including the Koran, the Hadith, which is based on the example of the prophet Muhammad, and fatwas, which are rulings of Islamic scholars. As a demand for Sharia thrives, a number of British law firms are starting to tap into the booming market. Muslim Lawyer Aina Khan has launched one of the first Sharia departments at her London-based law firm. She offers clients advice that is in keeping with both English and Islamic law. “I am surprised that the majority of people that I am dealing with are under the age of 50. They are British Muslims who want to satisfy their British identity as well as their Muslim one. “So I give them solutions to their problems that satisfy both legal systems all under one place.” Sharia judges hear cases in which Muslims volunteer to accept their rulings.

    • equality for woman, which was something revolutionary in 600 AD. brutality to women? there are more laws protecting women.

      So why say your own islamic texts that arab womans danced when mohammed died?Your religion is a lie,the most stolen from jews and christs,you dont know what some symboly in the quran are and say”Allah now it” but every Assyrian now it!That are Assyrian CIPHERS.

      So it can be also true that the qouran was written in Assyrian language-the most speaking language at this time in the are.I hope you know that PERSIANS gave Arabic first a grammar!

      ANd you will still tell us that you understant the quran?Hahaha….

      Thats like a german will say that he understand 1400year old english with no vocals when he think it is written in german.

      and if you are talking about rape-ask a psycho analyst.When you tell children that the most people in hell are womens,that womens hair make a man crazy and shit like his how will they think when they are older?You see it!
      Even in muslim countries where women wear burkas etc.

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